mdriftmeyer
Apr 16, 10:31 PM
Apple bought OS X too. :D
I'm arguing that both were massive undertakings by both parties. My OS X example was tainted with sarcasm if you didn't catch the little :rolleyes: there.
Both OS X and Chrome OS (and Android, and iOS) borrow heavily from others, either through acquisitions or from the open source community. To claim Google is any inferior here is just trying to stir the pot, especially calling the poster Troll, that is just insulting and uncalled for.
Both companies deserve props from providing the software they do, neither deserves scorn that some posters here like to dish out.
So what ? OS X is Mach/XNU, Apple didn't make that. It's also a GNU/Berkeley userland, Apple didn't make that either. Again guys, drop the non-sense competition, this thread is about a release of OS X, not some type of Google bashing contest.
Clarifications:
XNU is post 1996 merger. Mach pre merger was 2.9. Post merger is a mix of Mach 3.x with XNU and FreeBSD, plus Apple's own advances.
Everyone who worked on OS X at Apple in Core Engineering was a merging of NeXT Engineering with some Apple Engineers and future talent. Apple bought NeXT for the IP, Code Bases, Tools, Engineering Talent and Leadership.
BSD is not GNU.
I'm arguing that both were massive undertakings by both parties. My OS X example was tainted with sarcasm if you didn't catch the little :rolleyes: there.
Both OS X and Chrome OS (and Android, and iOS) borrow heavily from others, either through acquisitions or from the open source community. To claim Google is any inferior here is just trying to stir the pot, especially calling the poster Troll, that is just insulting and uncalled for.
Both companies deserve props from providing the software they do, neither deserves scorn that some posters here like to dish out.
So what ? OS X is Mach/XNU, Apple didn't make that. It's also a GNU/Berkeley userland, Apple didn't make that either. Again guys, drop the non-sense competition, this thread is about a release of OS X, not some type of Google bashing contest.
Clarifications:
XNU is post 1996 merger. Mach pre merger was 2.9. Post merger is a mix of Mach 3.x with XNU and FreeBSD, plus Apple's own advances.
Everyone who worked on OS X at Apple in Core Engineering was a merging of NeXT Engineering with some Apple Engineers and future talent. Apple bought NeXT for the IP, Code Bases, Tools, Engineering Talent and Leadership.
BSD is not GNU.
AidenShaw
Apr 26, 02:32 PM
Would be a while before we see any 10Gbps SSDs (hard drives will never be that fast)
Drive arrays can easily exceed 10 Gbps - even with spinning hard drives. Today a 2 SSD drive RAID 0 array can hit 10 Gbps with consumer-grade drives.
Single drives faster than TBolt already exist - 12 Gbps SSD drive (http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodriveduo/) 48 Gbps SSD drive (http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodriveoctal/).
TBolt devices haven't even hit the market, but TBolt is already too slow for many uses.
Drive arrays can easily exceed 10 Gbps - even with spinning hard drives. Today a 2 SSD drive RAID 0 array can hit 10 Gbps with consumer-grade drives.
Single drives faster than TBolt already exist - 12 Gbps SSD drive (http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodriveduo/) 48 Gbps SSD drive (http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodriveoctal/).
TBolt devices haven't even hit the market, but TBolt is already too slow for many uses.
Jako7286
Apr 28, 04:07 PM
Just says -
Depth: 0.37 inch (9.3 mm)...lies, available in white and black....
...oh well
I honestly think "0.37 inch" is probably accurate enough for both white and black, as they are probably both within 0.365-0.375 inches. 0.01 inches = 0.25 mm, which is more like what it looks like the difference is in the pic to me...
Depth: 0.37 inch (9.3 mm)...lies, available in white and black....
...oh well
I honestly think "0.37 inch" is probably accurate enough for both white and black, as they are probably both within 0.365-0.375 inches. 0.01 inches = 0.25 mm, which is more like what it looks like the difference is in the pic to me...
Keleko
Apr 12, 04:29 PM
I have very limited time for pictures this week. I'm taking what easy ones I can and going with it. This is my son on his "new to him" bike. It was found abandoned in Florida by my parents a few years ago. My son is finally big enough for it, and my dad cleaned it up for him last week.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5614560090_c20410cd11_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22077805@N07/5614560090/in/photostream)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5614560090_c20410cd11_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22077805@N07/5614560090/in/photostream)
AndroidfoLife
Apr 24, 01:41 PM
There is a lot of Apple Dick riding going on. Their is nothing wrong with that. But at some point you have to wake up and look at the rest of the world. World wide in smartphone sells Iphone leads by a large margin. World wide Smartphone OSs, iPhone is generally in third or fourth place (Depends on who made it, Some put RIM in front of iOS). But the majority of them place Android or Symbian as the top selling OS.
If many of your theories that android would disappear if the iPhone was on the same carrier holds no weight. AT&T is still selling millions of Android based phones next to the iPhone (that is was even when AT&T had a piss poor line up android phones.) Right now yes iPhone is selling more then android OS on verizon. But once the honey moon phase is over android based phones will slip back ahead in sells.
And please for the love of all thats good stop going by your personal observations. Watch me do it. In my men of honor meetings on campus I see no iOS devices and half the room has Androids. In my history class there is an equal proportion of Android OS to iOS phones. its based on where and when you look however it does not represent the entire world.
But this does my school did a survey online and we found as March 20 the Ratios look like this- Blackberry 17%, iOS 40, Android 35%, other ties in the rest. Highest selling phone: iPhone 4, iPhone 3gs, Lg Optimus 1 series of phones.
If many of your theories that android would disappear if the iPhone was on the same carrier holds no weight. AT&T is still selling millions of Android based phones next to the iPhone (that is was even when AT&T had a piss poor line up android phones.) Right now yes iPhone is selling more then android OS on verizon. But once the honey moon phase is over android based phones will slip back ahead in sells.
And please for the love of all thats good stop going by your personal observations. Watch me do it. In my men of honor meetings on campus I see no iOS devices and half the room has Androids. In my history class there is an equal proportion of Android OS to iOS phones. its based on where and when you look however it does not represent the entire world.
But this does my school did a survey online and we found as March 20 the Ratios look like this- Blackberry 17%, iOS 40, Android 35%, other ties in the rest. Highest selling phone: iPhone 4, iPhone 3gs, Lg Optimus 1 series of phones.
Komentra
Apr 14, 01:57 PM
Does anyone know if the home sharing play count bug has been fixed? I'd upgrade if it has but if it hasn't I'll stick with my 4.3.1 jailbreak.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about there was a bug where home sharing to device was not updating song play counts in iTunes like it's suppose to.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about there was a bug where home sharing to device was not updating song play counts in iTunes like it's suppose to.
Moyank24
Apr 28, 12:30 PM
Still night. The death was because of a kamikaze attack.
Oops! I was so upset about appleguy's apparent suicide I wasn't thinking. :D
And Annie Oakley is so much cooler than being a stupid sandwich maker...
Oops! I was so upset about appleguy's apparent suicide I wasn't thinking. :D
And Annie Oakley is so much cooler than being a stupid sandwich maker...
LightSpeed1
Apr 28, 09:06 PM
As time moves forward, well start to see a lot of this.
macUser2007
Apr 22, 07:26 PM
3.7"?!
This makes the new iPhone similar to an entry-level Android.
Apple needs to bump this to 4" or 4.1".
This makes the new iPhone similar to an entry-level Android.
Apple needs to bump this to 4" or 4.1".
kevin.rivers
Jul 28, 10:40 AM
That's the funny thing, though. You're not locked into DRM with the iPod. You don't need an iTMS to use your iPod, just iTunes. It plays standard MP3 files and non-DRM'ed AAC files.
If you want to buy music online, you ARE locked into to DRM. Which is what people hate about the iPod/iTMS model.
If you have your own MP3's great. In that regard MS and Apple will be the same. Apple does however offer an end to end solution. That is what MS wants. They don't want to just have a player. THey want to offer music for download online, and with your purchase you get a full slab of DRM.
So no, it is not the funny thing. Unless MS starts wrapping DRM into your ripped collection. There is no advantage to buying an iPod over a Zune. Which is bad for MS because there is already tons millions if iPod users to sway.
I don't think they will get them with the, share files over WiFi but I guess they could...
If you want to buy music online, you ARE locked into to DRM. Which is what people hate about the iPod/iTMS model.
If you have your own MP3's great. In that regard MS and Apple will be the same. Apple does however offer an end to end solution. That is what MS wants. They don't want to just have a player. THey want to offer music for download online, and with your purchase you get a full slab of DRM.
So no, it is not the funny thing. Unless MS starts wrapping DRM into your ripped collection. There is no advantage to buying an iPod over a Zune. Which is bad for MS because there is already tons millions if iPod users to sway.
I don't think they will get them with the, share files over WiFi but I guess they could...
skunk
Apr 24, 06:11 PM
People get beat up for no reason all the time. It doesn't have to do anything with bullying or the victim being a transgender. From what the victim said, the attackers used a standard "excuse" to start a fight. ("Why are you talking to my man?", if I understood correctly.)They said "Why are you talking to my man?" to a transgendered woman in a women's "restroom"? :confused:
Does not compute.
Does not compute.
junker
Jul 28, 08:17 AM
This news will hopefully inspire Apple to make the next generation iPods even more amazing. However, I don't see MS as the biggest threat to the iPod. I am much more concerned about mp3 cellphones with 4Gb flash (see e.g. SonyEricsson).
Apple needs come up with a revolutionary device that integrates an iPod with a cellphone and possibly even a GPS, in order to keep their mp3 marketshare.
And when MRAM comes to the market - I hope Apple gets that first, it'll mean a HUGE advantage for whomever.
Apple needs come up with a revolutionary device that integrates an iPod with a cellphone and possibly even a GPS, in order to keep their mp3 marketshare.
And when MRAM comes to the market - I hope Apple gets that first, it'll mean a HUGE advantage for whomever.
joshwest
May 3, 08:47 AM
It's awesome Apple is making a base iMac so powerful, a i5 Quad for 1199$ shows that apple is going to be having faster i7's in the future for the high end.
trainguy77
Oct 13, 05:14 PM
well we just got passed again. we are now ranked #59 as a team. and there are plenty more teams on our heels
Yeah. Atleast we are gaining on 4 teams as well.
Yeah. Atleast we are gaining on 4 teams as well.
iliketyla
Apr 13, 07:45 PM
Anyone actually planning on buying this? Especially with a refresh right around the corner?
twoodcc
Nov 29, 08:28 PM
I have my fingers crossed! one of them is connected to the power supply for another machine :eek: it seems to be working for now but I will have to get some bigger psu's soon. The one you are getting looks like a good deal.
oh ok. yeah i've heard of people doing that though. yeah, better get a bigger psu soon though
oh ok. yeah i've heard of people doing that though. yeah, better get a bigger psu soon though
meridio
Aug 20, 05:38 AM
Hi, I'm new :)
Looking at the screenshots my impression is that the Finder is exactly the same as the "old" one. Does this mean that one of the secret feature is a completely new Finder?
(btw.. other screenshots of leopard and in particular XCode and Xray: http://www.macinquirer.net/page0/page0.php)
Looking at the screenshots my impression is that the Finder is exactly the same as the "old" one. Does this mean that one of the secret feature is a completely new Finder?
(btw.. other screenshots of leopard and in particular XCode and Xray: http://www.macinquirer.net/page0/page0.php)
cwerdna
Jan 27, 03:19 PM
you guys think Apple stock has dropped? Take a look at Google.... WOW.
Not sure what your point is, AAPL has done a LOT worse percentage-wise in the last few weeks than GOOG.
See http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GOOG&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=aapl and http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/print/print.asp?frames=0&time=4&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=goog&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&style=320&size=2&unused=0&o_symb=aapl&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=aapl&draw.x=16&draw.y=17&default=true&backurl=%2Fadvchart%2Fframes%2Fmain%2Easp&prms=qcd&sid=609.
Not sure what your point is, AAPL has done a LOT worse percentage-wise in the last few weeks than GOOG.
See http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GOOG&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=aapl and http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/print/print.asp?frames=0&time=4&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comp=goog&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&style=320&size=2&unused=0&o_symb=aapl&startdate=&enddate=&show=true&symb=aapl&draw.x=16&draw.y=17&default=true&backurl=%2Fadvchart%2Fframes%2Fmain%2Easp&prms=qcd&sid=609.
rstansby
Jun 6, 04:43 PM
Yeah, "accidentally," sure. :rolleyes: The price and the buttons on the app store are clearly labeled. You don't just "accidentally" purchase this. It's only believable if the kid is still an infant and randomly tap on stuff, but 11 year old? Come on. :rolleyes: Besides, there's an option to restrict the ability to install apps on the OS.
As many people have mentioned in this thread, once you enter your password to download one app, there is a short window when you are not required to enter it again to download another app.
As many people have mentioned in this thread, once you enter your password to download one app, there is a short window when you are not required to enter it again to download another app.
7on
Jul 25, 08:24 AM
I'm still wondering about battery life.
And they list the wired as Windows compatible, but not the new bluetooth version. Any reason it wouldn't work on Windows?
Any reason anything works in windows?
And they list the wired as Windows compatible, but not the new bluetooth version. Any reason it wouldn't work on Windows?
Any reason anything works in windows?
joshwest
May 3, 08:47 AM
It's awesome Apple is making a base iMac so powerful, a i5 Quad for 1199$ shows that apple is going to be having faster i7's in the future for the high end.
milo
Jul 25, 09:38 AM
$70 for a mouse? Give me a break.
I just bought a two button scrollwheel mouse for $1.67. There's no reason for it to cost more than that. $10 is too much.
Well, there is a reason...wireless (particularly bluetooth). Just because you don't want it doesn't mean other people do.
I just bought a two button scrollwheel mouse for $1.67. There's no reason for it to cost more than that. $10 is too much.
Well, there is a reason...wireless (particularly bluetooth). Just because you don't want it doesn't mean other people do.
SchneiderMan
Jan 30, 04:31 PM
I really like that bag! Very nice.
Just had Five Guys with my brother. No one in my family but me takes him there. It's become our thing :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5090304078_9d874f65fa.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/heyjuliette/5090304078/)
Just went there for the first time yesterday to be disappointed =/
Expensive and nothing special. The Habit is a better option imo :)
Just had Five Guys with my brother. No one in my family but me takes him there. It's become our thing :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5090304078_9d874f65fa.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/heyjuliette/5090304078/)
Just went there for the first time yesterday to be disappointed =/
Expensive and nothing special. The Habit is a better option imo :)
c.hilding
Dec 4, 12:41 AM
I agree. Tough love is best here. It's better to have the vulnerabilities exposed in this manner than in a live scenario. Let's just hope the press from this is enough for Apple to fix the problem before we have something bigger than a proof-of-concept exploit.
Yeah, when the poll was loading I expected 80-90% to be concerned about security, turns out only 40% are. So many ignorant "blissful" people that excuse Apple and think "It's Apple, of course it's safe". Obviously it's not. Ten serious exploits in about as many days of looking (they spent 30 days total, about an equal amount on linux and mac, and the rest on other OS's, so 10 should be right) and that is just scratching the surface. I was shocked that Apple actually had so many vulnerabilities, and for those that didn't find it scary that someone can install a program with kernel access simply by having you download their dmg file (not even opening it), well they're just being silly and need to realize that this is and some extremely bad things can happen if we are to go by that analysts words (saying OS X is not hot on security and that it is easy to find new hacks). :p
Yeah, when the poll was loading I expected 80-90% to be concerned about security, turns out only 40% are. So many ignorant "blissful" people that excuse Apple and think "It's Apple, of course it's safe". Obviously it's not. Ten serious exploits in about as many days of looking (they spent 30 days total, about an equal amount on linux and mac, and the rest on other OS's, so 10 should be right) and that is just scratching the surface. I was shocked that Apple actually had so many vulnerabilities, and for those that didn't find it scary that someone can install a program with kernel access simply by having you download their dmg file (not even opening it), well they're just being silly and need to realize that this is and some extremely bad things can happen if we are to go by that analysts words (saying OS X is not hot on security and that it is easy to find new hacks). :p
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